When I was about 17 years old, I was invited to take part in the examination and, of course, was inevitably registered as a German citizen who had to decide between alternative civilian service or basic military service.
For me, the question as a civil never arose, although there were many advantages: You can choose the job yourself, or you can choose it on your doorstep (I know such people).
The payment is much better than GWDLer. If you consider that in the beginning you get 220€ every month, it is really a starvation wage. Many comrades were working at this time, had a multiple of the wage, which one gets with the BW!
The three-month Bundeswehr basic training can be anything: For some it is fun, others like to look back on this time, like me. Others don’t “get” it at all, and they hate that time.
However, the main reason to go to BW is the fact that you do this only once in your life!
Anyone who talks about BW, be it negative or positive, you can ask: “And? Were you there? Why do you want to talk?” By the way: the delicious BW biscuits are called armoured biscuits or armoured plates!
And the time with the low earnings also passes, be it after 9 months where you stop, be it after 9 months where you become FWDL and earn more.
Why I create this page
When I was patterned, it became clear for me: Soon it will start!
When, it was clear. But not where!
I had no idea how time would be, what was coming, what I might have to take with me, when I would come home, etc..
Many questions, which I will gladly answer for you!
What do I do or learn in the AGA? ( General basic training)?
The training focus during the AGA will be in the following areas of learning military skills.
This includes e.g. weapon training, the well-known disassembling and assembling of the hand weapons of the soldiers. For example the G3 / G36, the P1 or P8, the MP3, the Panzerfaust, the MG.
Believe me! You’ll disassemble your weapons so many times you’ll be able to do it in your sleep.
The correct disassembly and assembly of the weapons is part of the safety / function test.
Further a shooting training follows, where you will shoot with P1/8, MG, G3/36. You may not shoot the Uzi / MP3.
In different distances and attitudes different goals are to be hit. Very fun at the beginning, later it gradually becomes routine. On average you will shoot once a week. Disassembling guns is almost every day.
The information is given in blocks / by the hour. So that every 40 minutes or so there’s another subject area. The day is divided into individual topic blocks: In the morning e.g. weapons training, in the afternoon sports, in the evening troop training.
Sports training was with us about once or twice a week for 2 hours, mostly running.
Some weeks went by without sports, but we often ran to the training area, which was VERY exhausting due to the hilly location! So sports were ticked off.
You’ll learn security training for the first time. How you act like guards, patrol, etc…
Collection of questions and answers – Medical training
Medical training is actually the only thing you should take with you for civilian use: Not only do you get to know different types of wounds, dressings, etc… It is rather what you have learned in your driver’s license course for 1st aid, just extended to one week, tightened and extended. Really worth imitating.
After a short time you will no longer be able to see the familiar “Types of movement in the terrain”.
Ah, a “darling” of every soldier was the ABC training, be surprised or ask friends (abc training soldier) 🙂
You will also use the obstacle course more often and a bivouac (Bundeswehr-Natur-Camping) for at least 5 days is unavoidable.
All in all, the AGA is very varied, you really learn a lot, are tired in the evening and sleep well. You have to experience a lot yourself and I can’t describe every detail to you. It’s demanding, exhausting, but not overwhelming. If you have good instructors, they will occasionally (but very rarely!) push you to your physical limits, but good instructors will NEVER overdo it!
These 3 months will be the months you will remember for the rest of your lives. Contrary to many who didn’t feel comfortable in the AGA, it was fun for me. It was a good time, but I was just as happy to be out of the AGA!
4. What do I do in the subsequent use of troops?
The service in the use of troops will be determined by routine. Sometimes less, sometimes more. And I can’t tell you exactly what you’re going to do!
Depending on your school education and the profession you have learned, you will be employed differently. Mostly car journeymen come to the inst. and maintenance. People with Abi often in writing rooms or business rooms. This cannot be said in general terms, as the people are only roughly sorted according to Abi / school / education and then classified according to the required personnel. And: Your everyday life will look accordingly and I cannot tell you exactly what you will do!
5. earnings / pay
The pay is staggered according to length of stay and rank. As a gunner you get three (I leave out the decimal places) months long 220 Euro, as a private 240 Euro and as a corporal 260 Euro. In addition there are 11 Euro if you have e.g. guard, GvD, KvD, UvD and you do this 24 hours a day. However, you will only get 11 Euros if you no longer have a gunner. Then for every FULL day that you do not take part in the troop kitchen, there will be a 6 Euro food allowance. For example, vacation, illness at home, or Saturday and Sunday! You live farther away, you get mileage money. But that’s hardly enough to drive home twice a month. Well, it’s not much money. You can top it all up if you don’t attend the morning and evening meals. Lunch is obligatory unless there is a possibility that you can go home during the lunch break. I don’t think many people will be able to do that. So you get about 35 Euro per month.
As an example: OG with 260 Euro, 10 days a month full board with 6 Euro, 35 Euro, since only lunch is eaten and 2 services a month (guard and UVD)… makes approx. 380 Euro. There’s no mileage allowance here, though.
Depending on where you come from, what grade you have, whether you only eat lunch, and how many services you have, you will receive the appropriate salary.
As a civil, you can easily get more, but that’s another topic.
What you earn as a temporary soldier doesn’t matter here.
If you serve more than 9 months and have extended, you get approx. 600 Euro per month in addition blank. You will also get a few euros more for the services. So you will have about 1000 Euro per month if you stay longer than 9 months.
A private can’t live with that. If you’ve extended, it’s something.
There’s still this alimony department: This pays you various things in the month (apartment, children, pension insurance, and so on). You should check with your accountant.
Six. What should I take with me to the first week?
Probably the most important topic!
Roughly speaking, except toothpaste, soap and toothbrush, NOTHING!
Okay, a little more than that. However, after 2 days we had already been fully dressed.
Which you really should take with you:
*Tweezers to remove ticks
*Ticks / insect repellent
*Chocolate and other sweets
*Wax, razor, shower gel, shampoo.
*Your mobile phone and an extra card with enough Euro on it to call in the evening.
*Buy yourself two extra olive undershirts. You’ll be sweating a lot of these things and you’ll be happy to have more. There are from the BW only 3 and these are clearly too few!
*Vaccination card, driver’s license, ID card (IMPORTANT!)
You don’t need much more. Don’t come on the SAU DUMME IDEE to take a suitcase full of clothes, towels, etc. with you! You will be SOLDAT from the date of your convocation! There’s everything you need except toothbrush, pasta and candy. You can also buy the candy at the team home.
I’ve seen a lot of people carrying whole bags! I had a little rucksack with a pair of sports pants and a guard’s kit. That had just arrived, too.
To say it again, you won’t need much except the things I told you.
7. When do I get home for the weekend?
It is actually usual not to come home for the 1st weekend or at least to be on duty for a long time on Saturdays.
We got to go home that Saturday at 2:00.
It’s common for the gates to be open between 12:00 and 1:00 on Fridays. On Fridays there is still room and district cleaning and if Stuffze feel like it, they clean another hour longer. Don’t be angry about it. We’ve had bets going on how long we’d stay.
Twice we stayed an hour longer. Three months!
8. where will I be transferred to AGA? Where will I be transferred after the AGA?
I don’t know exactly who decides that. Probably the superior regiment or something. It’s on your draft notice at the latest. You can also report to the Kreiswehrersatzamt. You’ll find out faster and you’ll be able to adjust. You don’t have a way to change that.
It’s also it’s possible that you can visit your girlfriend every evening during the AGA, but only on weekends during the next 6 months. The opposite may be the case. Or you’re lucky there’s a barracks near you.
People are also sent to the AGA in Bavaria, for example, although two barracks are less than half an hour away from the residence. Often, however, they also come back into the proximity again.
9. How long am I on duty during the AGA?
Phew. Good question! That’s very different! Sometimes you have a week where you’re still on duty till 9:00 or 10:00. It often ends at 16:45. I can’t tell you that in advance, though. Just this much: the longest is 22 o’clock, so you are in bed at 23 o’clock. The earliest was 16:45 with us.
10. How long am I on duty after AGA?
- 06:45 Presence check, then cleaning the parlour
- 07:10 Start / Command output
- 07:30 to 16:30 Service in the troop
Depending on the regiment, battalion, etc., this shifts slightly. If you’re unlucky, you’ll end up in shift units. For example, radio operators or kitchen businesses. But you’ll find out.
However, you have a frame hour time. It’s something about 40 hours.
11.What is bivouac?
Biwak is the Bundeswehr camping. You go with your dachshund garage, build it up, hop around in the woods, eat Epak and so on. That’s funny. Approximately after 2 to 3 days, with 2 hours of sleep through, you switch on so slowly.
I don’t want to tell you much about it. Only this much: It will be one of the most exhausting times 🙂
12. How’s dinner?
In short: We had 1/4 to puke on (90% of them are Fridays. There are fish and fish, I don’t like).
2/4 are quite OK, 1/4 is really excellent!
You can eat it, very rarely there is really something that is not very good. The majority is very good, well done and tastes good! For canteen food it is very good and if you want, you have always a big belly full!
13. Will I go to schools?
This will be announced at the end of the AGA or at the beginning of the deployment of the troops. Basically, one is sent to technical courses when one goes to the institute or maintenance. For caring activities or also in the transport train one is sent on driving licence. Roughly speaking: one learns to screw on tanks or vehicles and/or is sent on a driving licence.
There are still schools where you can be trained as an accountant. But to cut a long story short: What you need to know is what you’re shown. PC courses, or Word itself, if you sit in the office at the PC, are unfortunately not included.
I think that’s a pity, because you would have at least one proof for your future employer.
14. What about BFD?
This is the professional development service available for both temporary soldiers and Grundis. There you have the possibility to attend certain courses. At SaZ, retraining, training courses, master craftsmen, etc. can be used. I’m only referring to Grundis here:
You are entitled to a certain amount, 1300 DM, which is about 650 Euro. With this amount courses can be attended.
This is for every Grundi. For BFD there are 5 days special vacation, who makes more than 5 days BFD as Grundi, must use its recovery vacation for it.
The offer is very different and should be in every barracks building with housing possibility.
I can recommend it, because you get it paid and you also have vacation.
15. The first day
Wasn’t that pleasant. I felt like a piece of cattle with no name, just a number. Anyway, the first week I found the hardest part of the whole BW thing, the first 3 days. I wish I’d run away.
However, it is so similar to everyone and after a short time it is no longer so extreme.
You should definitely be on time. If you come in around 9:00, you’ll be there before the Lunch ready and you’ll be taken there. Military 15 min time, but you will learn to eat fast :=)
In the beginning various personnel matters are carried out, then there were rooms, just don’t ask too many questions and remember what they say. It was all an orderly mess and it got on my nerves. On the first day we had almost all our clothes already and in the evening we had the masked ball.
But you’ll get to know that for yourself.
At 10 the day was over and I was happy when I was lying in bed.
The next few weeks were exhausting, but it worked. It was a good time, I saw a lot of things I’ll probably never do again in my life.
16. the examination
There are so many rumors about the subject, much of it is nonsense! There’s no fiddling with ass, testicles or penis.
First personnel matters, then there was the doctor’s examination. If you have any certificates here, take them with you.
She’ll ask about physical ailments, examine the joints, back, etc..
Ask if you have hemorrhoids (I’m sure you know that yourself), some doctors will also look directly.
That’s the familiar “bend over, please”. The testicles are palpated. It’s not about playing around, it’s about looking at changes and stuff. It’s not to embarrass you, it’s to investigate. So don’t panic. If you are not circumcised, you may still be checked to see if you have a foreskin constriction. It doesn’t always have to be that way.
A short sports test, surveying, hearing test follows.
Finally there is an aptitude test and you can indicate what you are interested in. I was almost exactly there.
So no panic issue. Most of them are civil anyway = normal on them. If you’re friendly, so are they.
17. How much vacation do I have? What do I get additional leave for?
As W9 (conscripted, 9 months), you are entitled to 20 days holiday. There are no half Days, in case of an emergency you can also go an hour earlier if there is something important. There’s no counting on Saturdays, there’s no duty.
Save yourself at least two weeks for BFD, authorities or applications!
During the AGA you can’t take a vacation.
There is also a special holiday: 1 to 3 days of holiday can be granted for special services. I got three days once. There’s special leave for marriage, death, birth, etc. Special leave is also available for job interviews, recruitment tests. For BFD (Berufsförderungsdienst) there are up to 5 days.
There is one compensation day per quarter.
All in all, this is not little. That would be maximum 20 days recovery, 5 days BFD, 2 times quarter (during the AGA there is no such thing), + job interviews.
When I was finished after 9 months, I had 36 days where I was “not allowed in the barracks” = BFD, vacation, job interviews, special vacation at special performance, etc..
Not bad, huh? Now 6 weeks of training and you have your 9 months behind you 🙂
18. Clothes: What do I get? Where can I get it washed? What if something has to be swapped?
First of all every soldier, be it crew, Uffz or officer has the same basic clothing. However, this differs according to the location and type of troop. Whether it’s air force or navy, army, mountain fighter or something.
Without any extra equipment, like ABC stuff, helmet, we had:
- 3 trousers
- 4 Field blouse
- 5 socks
- 3 olive undershirts
Tip: Buy two extra undershirts. You’ll be sweating a lot of these things and you’ll be happy to have more. There are only 3 of the BW, and they are too few!
- 2 boots
- You could put on your own underwear or take those of the BW which are OK.
Now, these are the clothes you’ll always be wearing. Besides there is also cold protection, rain protection, Out-of-home uniform,and more.
Clothes can be washed on the laundry and clothing chamber. This usually takes a week. For example, I always have my uniform washed there. They iron it, put it together and it comes in a bag so I just have to put it in the locker. Underwear, e.g. underpants, stockings, olive-coloured shirts I let wash at home, because all this is often worn.
If something’s broken, no problem. This will be taken to the clothing store, exchanged if available or sewn. You can even get almost everything new there. I was there during the AGA quite often 🙂
19. journeys home, train journeys, railway authorisation card
Going home is free, that’s what the paper says. The fact is that you go home by train on Fridays and reappear on Sundays or Mondays. If you have to take the bus to the station, you should collect the receipts. The money is returned to the account every month. If you travel by car on weekends, you will also receive a mileage allowance in addition to the distance allowance. But that’s hardly enough to drive home twice a month if you live further away. The Bahncard is also valid as a Bahncard. It’s not the world, but a Bahncard costs you about 70 Euro.
20. tips during the AGA against blisters and sores
There are chafe marks in the boots behind at the heels and in the sneakers at the small outer toes.
Two pairs of socks help with the shoes, I’m still wearing them. Glue the affected areas with Tesaplast (take the properly disgustingly good adhesive!). Then I recommend deer talk ointment. It doesn’t stink and sweat your feet like that.
21. What about weekend services?
You’ll have about two to three services a month. As a rule. Sometimes it will be more.
You will spend a day every 2 months in the barracks at the weekend. That includes Friday afternoon to Sunday, of course. It won’t be any more. In larger barracks perhaps every 3 months and one or two services.
As services there are:
KvD: Drivers on duty from 13:00 to 13:00.
Sleeping possibility optimal.
Uvd: Corporal on duty. Sleeping possibility medium from 00:00 to 05:00.
GvD: Private on duty. I can’t sleep very well. From 18:00 to 24:00 o’clock and from 00:00 to 05:00 o’clock one can nod off on the chair, only one should not be caught.
Guard: Sleep possibility mediocre, good, bad. It’s bad at barracks where patrols are being made. If there’s no patrol, it’s different. If you are the first goalkeeper, you stand at the goal until 24 o’clock, then you sleep from 24 o’clock to 6 o’clock. During the day you can also lie down, alternating.
As a night gate post one should rest from 19 o’clock to 24 o’clock, one is then awake from 24 o’clock to 7 o’clock. During the day you can take turns sleeping.
That’s all the services I know. I prefer to keep watch. Even if it is extremely LONG to stand outside from 18 to 24 o’clock as goalpost 1, I can at least sleep at night.
22. tips against blisters
First of all: The Bundeswehr boots are quite good. Of course, a different model is worn with Gebir hunters than with artillery. One kind only goes up to the ankles, the other one’s pretty high.
I’m referring to artillery boots.
You should make sure they fit. It’s easy to say, of course, but: Too narrow is better than too far.
If those things are too far, you slip when you walk and it scrubs.
In the beginning the leather is still quite hard. Applies shoe polish often, lets it work overnight.
Remember, you got two pair. Change these!
I used to wear two pairs of socks. The sweat is better absorbed and the shoes fit tighter.
I’ve only been wounding myself and my comrades. and the other heels. Only Panzertape can actually help. Just before the march on it. There you go.
Have you run blisters or chafed: You should pierce closed blisters with a clean needle. For protection you can apply CompoMed blister plasters.
At night the plaster should be removed so that the bladder can dry.
But I only recommend this for big things, for small bubbles a band-aid will do. Remember, then:
Put a Band-Aid on it and then LeukoPlast or Panzertape.
Mostly, you’ll only get blisters on your heels.
In addition, you can also try to remove this insole. It helped with me.
And put these combat boots on tight! As soon as you slip inside, it scrubs. I used to wear two socks in the summer, too. This means the sweat does not accumulate so quickly and does not rub.
In itself, however, you will not get any blisters in the boots otherwise.
There’s something else entirely their running shoes are doing. Make sure you glue the little toe on there. You’ll get bloody blisters so fast, you won’t be able to keep up with plasters.
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